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Monday, 30 November 2009

  • ... the teachable/unteachable dichotomy

    the teachable/unteachable dichotomy

    In some ways it is fitting for me to become unteachable and in some ways it is fitting for me to become more teachable. Some deep groanings of Truth are within me and as I learn to put them to words, I find that the concrete is setting up solid around them, and I soon won't be able to move away from them.

    You will never convince me that God depends on me instead of me depending on Him. That is pretty settled in my mind.

    You'll never convince me that I can sway God's love either toward or away from me. That is something in which certainty is growing every day.

    You will never convince me that I need more then Christ. He is the highest revelation, and if I have Him, then I will never need anything more, and I will never ever have to get by with less then His sufficiency. There is no way, loving or cruel to move me from that.

    I will never be convinced that one can stand in Christ alone, and at the same time be under condemnation. I have seen that is impossible.

    But, at the same time I am aware that there are some ghastly wrong things that are part of what I think is right, and that there is no way that I'll ever be able to present the fullness of Truth to anyone else, much less sort it all out for myself. I can only speak about what I know and be open to knowing more. That is the teachable/unteachable dichotomy. It involves a lot of saying what "I know," and a lot of admitting what "I do not know," but less and less blindly asserting things that I don't understand.

    May we grow in the sensitivity of the difference, and speak primarily about what is burdened in our heart, while not assuming that what is on our heart would be spiritual for everyone else to have on their heart.

    I love the topic of obedience (for example,) and find it crucial to the Christian life, but I can't lay aside what is placed on my heart and speak to that subject all the time. I only have so much time, and though I would like enough time to speak to obedience in proportion to its importance, I have to share what is in my heart. I don't think it more spiritual for anyone to speak about what is on my heart. Everyone has different emphasis's in accordance to what they have been graced to understand. Likewise, others should not assume that obedience isn't important to me, just because I don't often speak about it. Just because it is the most important to me, doesn't mean (when I don't speak about it) that I think that it isn't important. I just have limited things to share about.

    We have a mocking bird in Texas. It is our state bird, and they are all over the place. When you listen to them, they sing about 12 or so songs, and just go over that rotation. Another mocking bird will have 12 or so songs, but maybe only one or so of them are the same as the first bird, so together they have about 20 songs in their rotation. And so, adding more mocking birds to the list, would add more songs, but at some point you could add 100 more birds and not get a single new song, because they are already sung by one of the others. To me this is like the body of Christ. We sing the song that is placed on our heart and it may overlap what has already been said, but we are not in competition, we are together joining in a chorus of music that reveals the music placed in our heart ... and can only be fully experienced in the corporate expression from each of us. None of us have the whole song, but we each have a part of it, and we should not condemn others if their song is a bit different.

    Now of course that analogy breaks down, because two opposite teachings are at odds with each other, but that is because one of the birds, isn't a bird or maybe they are a bird, but they are singing someone - else's song instead of the one that God placed there.

    Anyway, I hope you are encouraged by my viewpoint on that, and encouraged to shine inasmuch as you are given the grace to shine. Just be sincere, and genuine, and never teach someone else's gospel. Teach the gospel that is burned in your heart, and comes alive when you read it in scriptures or hear it from others.

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Friday, 27 November 2009

  • Question and Answer about who endures "Tribulation"

    Trent, brother..

    there is something I don't understand. Will we be here during the tribulation or are we already with God then?

    Blessings,

    Daan

    Trent Fuller November 27 at 3:54pm
    Will you remain during the Great Tribulation?

    Yes, if you have chosen the world and your own way over the Lord Jesus and servitude to Him.

    Yes, if you are Moses or Elijah or 144,000 servants who will be simultaneously translated and reborn in a new body on during the harvest, having spent time with the Lord although time stood still on earth. These will endure 7 years of great Tribulation as fully established and powerful soldiers for the Lord.

    Yes, if you are a pastor or teacher who has mislead the Lord's sheep or caused them to stumble or misappropriated money given to God for your own selfish gain.

    No, if you are a child, baby, or fetus who is of such a young age that you remain in innocence, having not chosen against God in rebellion to Him. These will all escape God's wrath.

    No, if you are fully converted in your heart having that part of Him (His Spirit) present in your secret innermost chamber of Your heart that only God knows.

    However, if you were merely talking about tribulation, not the Great Tribulation ... then understand that in this world we all have tribulation ... and none are getting through without a scratch, as it has always been.

    Therefore, blessed are those that escape the cup of God's indignation that has been stored up for 2000 years, for indeed it will be poured out in this generation ... even the last 7 years of the age which is nearly upon us.

    Does this answer your question?

    Ripening,
    Trent

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  • We have been faxing every church in the United States and have less than 40,000 churches left to fa

    Join me in praying that these churches receive this message well, and that it bear fruit in the way they conduct themselves in the little time we have left before the Day of the Lord.
    The message is found as I read it in this video: http://3.ly/1d1

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Thursday, 26 November 2009

  • Thus Says The Lord: Regarding the “holiday” of men, called Thanksgiving

    Home > Volume 6 > Give Thanks Without Ceasing, Offer Up Praise and Thanksgiving Before Your God... Be Set Apart For His Glory

    11/26/09 From God The Father - The Lord’s Words Given to Timothy During an On-Line Bible Study Fellowship, For All Those Who Have Ears to Hear Regarding the “holiday” of men, called Thanksgiving


    Thus says The Lord: To those among you who take part... Let them not sin in doing so.
    Yet if one takes part, let them give thanks to the one true God only, in the Name of The King... For by Him do all things consist.
    Yet wiser still is the one who has drawn very close to Me, and sees past this holiday’s veneer, for it is of men and the world... I am not in it, nor is it in My honor. Be separate from the world, and be separate even as I have called you... Have no fellowship with the unbeliever, nor with those who push out the lip and make light of My words and persecute My beloved, in open and in secret. Yes, you shall go to them... Only when I command you, and at the time I appoint, when I fill you to speak... I am The Lord.

    This holiday of men has not aroused My anger, because they, who first took part in it, had a heart to honor Me, yet today it is not so. However, in the giving of thanks am I well pleased, for this is pure worship. Yet I call you, who are Mine, to grow wise in Me... To heed My Spirit which I have given you, to see with greater eyes... To be set apart for My glory... To be separate from all that which is of the world, and is corrupted by the hands of men and their wicked hearts.

    Give thanks, therefore, says The Lord...

    Yea, bow down and give thanks seven times per day...

    From morning to sunset give thanks, from to day to day worship your God...
    And give thanks, without ceasing, for The Lord your Righteousness...

    For in Him is your life, and by Him shall you receive all I have prepared for you.

    In Him are all things brought forth,
    And in Him do all good things come to their completion.


    He IS... Even as I Am...

    The Kingdom...

    The Power...

    And The Glory...

    Forever and ever!...


    Says The Lord, who reigns and has come!


    Hear Me now, once more, My sons and daughters...

    Thus says The Lord, to His greatly beloved, and for those of you in the presence of your kindred: Do not deny Me... Neither by speech, nor in silence, nor in action... Do not deny My name.


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